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What’s the difference between stouts and porters, anyway?


WEB_20171030_DraftMag_PorterVsStoutBut seriously: What is the difference between stouts and porters? It’s a question we get from our readers several times a week. Their confusion is warranted: Both beer styles are dark; both have flavors and aromas of coffee, chocolate and toast; both seem to fall within the 5-7% alcohol range. And with brewers putting their own twists on each style, differentiating them has become a challenge; there’s a lot of overlap. But there are subtle differences between these styles, and to understand them, it helps to first understand their history.

We’ll start with porter. Though we know the style washed over London in the 1700s, becoming the city’s most popular beer style and playing an integral role in growing its greatest breweries, its true origins are as dark as black patent malt. The most enduring tale about its invention involves threads, butts, and a brewer named Ralph Harwood. It goes like this: In the 1720s, beer in pubs was usually served from casks, which were also known as “butts,” and the beer poured from these butts was known as a “thread.” A single mug of beer commonly contained several threads blended by the bartender at the point of sale; a popular order among the porters who frequented a particular pub, in fact, was known as “Three Threads.” The man in charge of the pub, tired of all this blending, allegedly hired Harwood to create a beer that would recreate the flavor of three threads, and Harwood obliged, calling his pre-fab blend “Entire.” The name, however, wouldn’t stick; the beer became so popular with London’s working porters that it would eventually be named after them.

That’s the story, anyway. Though Three Threads and other blended beers certainly existed, there’s little evidence that the particulars of Harwood’s Entire origin story are true. We don’t know much about how the porters of the day actually tasted, either; the flavors we associate with the style today—toast, coffee, chocolate, etc.—would have been impossible for brewers to achieve since reliable malt roasters wouldn’t be invented for another hundred years.

What is known, however, is that the stout style is porter’s direct descendant. In the 1700s, the word “stout” was used to refer to a bolder, higher-alcohol version of any beer style, much in the same way we use the word “imperial” today. Porter, as we mentioned, was the most popular beer of the day, and over time, “stout porter” became stout’s most common use. By the late 1800s, however, demand for regular porters had evaporated. Stout porter—shortened, simply, to stout—took its place.

So, judging from the history of these two styles, it would seem that stout should simply be a stronger, more intense version of porter. But more has changed between the 1800s and today than just our penchant for wearing top hats and big-butted dresses.

“Today, the true differences between the styles are constantly being debated,” says Bill Manley, brand manager at Sierra Nevada Brewing Co.’s facility in Mills River, North Carolina. “Many brewers market beers as either ‘stout’ or ‘porter’ based on their personal preferences and perspectives rather than a notable stylistic difference.”

Generally speaking, he says, porters will have less roasted character than stouts and typically will not be brewed with roasted barley (a type of dark, highly kilned barley that is not malted and thus imparts no sweetness to a beer). Sierra Nevada makes highly regarded versions of both styles; Manley says they differ in that the brewery’s Porter is drier and slightly lower in alcohol, while the Stout is a bit sweeter but also features roasted barley for a sharper malt flavor.

While malt flavors are the focus in both stouts and porters, beer’s other major flavor-contributing ingredients—hops and yeast—also can contribute subtle differences that allow us to differentiate between the styles. For its Great American Beer Festival and World Beer Cup Competitions, the Brewers Association maintains and regularly updates a list of beer style guidelines to both show brewers the flavors expected in a style and give the folks judging the beers a rubric for making their decisions. Both porter and stout are represented in the most recent edition of these guidelines; we’ve set the specifics of each style up side-by-side, for comparison.

Robust Porter American-style Stout
Malt Aroma & Flavor Medium to medium-high. Malty sweetness, roast malt, cocoa and caramel should be in harmony with bitterness from dark malts. Coffee-like roasted barley and roasted malt aromas are prominent. Low to medium malt sweetness with low to medium caramel, chocolate, and/or roasted coffee flavor should be present, with a distinct dry-roasted bitterness in the finish. Astringency from roasted malt and roasted barley is low. Slight roasted malt acidity is acceptable.
Hop Aroma & Flavor Very low to medium Medium to high, often with citrusy and/or resiny hop qualities typical of many American hop varieties.
Bitterness Medium to high Medium to high
Fermentation Characteristics Fruity esters should be evident and balanced with all other characters. Diacetyl should not be perceived. Fruity-estery aroma and flavor is low. Diacetyl should be negligible or not perceived.
Body Medium to full Medium to full

The style guidelines produced by the Beer Judge Certification Program, meanwhile, actually contain short sections that compare the characteristics of similar styles. This section on the American Porter entry says the style is “less strong and assertive than American Stouts.” The American Stout entry, similarly, affirms that the stout is “stronger and more assertive, particularly in the dark malt/grain additions and hop character, than American Porter.”

So, to recap: Porters tend to be fruitier, sweeter and less bitter than stouts, with cocoa and caramel flavors in balance with dark malt bitterness; stouts are usually hoppier, drier, maltier and more coffee-forward, and may even have a touch of acidity.

But again, approaches by actual brewers vary—remember Bill Manley saying Sierra Nevada’s Stout was sweeter than the Porter above? With the most important factor determining whether a beer is dubbed porter or stout seeming to be what the brewer feels like calling it, we may just be splitting hairs in trying to determine dissimilarities. In the end, the difference between the two styles is clear as a stout. Or a porter. Whichever.


Zach Fowle is DRAFT's beer editor. Reach him at zach@draftmag.com.


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  • Gary Gillman says:

    I’ve studied this in-depth and would argue there is no essential difference. At most stout was stronger than porter but both were dark brown/black black beers made from similar materials. Roasted barley was not lawful to use in England for some 150 years after porter first appeared (1720-1880s): stout and porter were both all-malt, a mix of pale malt and brown, black and/or amber malt.

    Sometimes the best of the range was called porter, that’s why even strong porter – stout – was often called porter in the Baltic regions (later it became bottom-fermented, but was not originally).

    The reason people think roasted barley is a marker of porter is, Guinness has used it since the mid-1900s for the darkening element of the mash. So when Michael Jackson was writing and Guinness was the main surviving form of stout, people thought it “had” to have roasted barley. But it didn’t, Guinness never used it in the 1800s certainly. It used pale malt and black patent malt or sometimes those plus amber malt. This is all well-documented.

    So, the answer is there is no difference: all stout is porter and the reverse is the same for practical purposes. At most once again, stout can be viewed as strong porter but there was never any legislated table of gravities and corresponding names. Guinness’ own names varied over time, by the way, for its beers. What was a porter at some times in some markets was termed stout at other times in other markets…

    However, given the developments with roasted barley mentioned, today it’s not that simple and many are convinced stout has to have roasted barley (un-malted, that is). But the mere existence of Imperial Stout shows even that idea is relative as much Imperial stout is all-malt.

    Best regards.

    Gary Gillman, Toronto

  • Bill Chance says:

    Very interesting article. I wondered myself. I’m no expert – but I know what I like. I’m particularly fond of Milk Stout – where the sweetness of the lactose balances (or overpowers) the bitterness and hoppiness.

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